Central Pacific Railroad Photographic History Museum
Am researching for an article which in part covers the SVRR. There is a lot of small-scale info available on the net but I am wondering if one of your posters could point me in the direction of a general survey of new material. ...
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I am working on a model 50' Passenger car by (Roundhouse) and I am interested as to where I could find any information on interior drawings, and to know what type trucks are prototypical for these cars, can you help me with this???
—Fritz Schwalb
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Have you ever noticed these two views of Humboldt House are exactly the same?
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... We are working on a National History Day project, and our topic is the First Transcontinental Railroad. We were wondering if we could ask ... a few questions on this topic. We greatly appreciate your help.
Questions:
2) Were there any other ethnic groups who worked on the railroad besides Chinese, Irish, and whites?
4) What were some main towns that the railroad passed through?
5) Were there any strikes or protests carried out by the rail workers during the construction?
Thank you so much for your time and assistance!
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The red background is a no no!!! Makes it very hard to read. Also, not good for those who are low vision. Please get rid of it!
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... My husband's grandfather, Frank J. Douglas, was yardmaster for several years in the early 1900's at Port Costa. We have visited Port Costa on several occasions; there is basically no rail yard/buildings remaining at Port Costa. We would really like to see any photos of the Port Costa and Benicia rail yards that transferred the freight via the "Solano". I see a lot of photos of the Solano, but very little of the ports and the port personnel.
We have, in our family archive, three photos of a group of men posed in front of an engine and a small building nearby. There is no identifying information, but we are certain that one of the men was Frank J. Douglas. The family story is that Frank was one of the youngest men ever to attain yard master status. He apparently trained at Denison, TX.
—Bobette Doulas
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I enjoyed browsing your site today...especially the old pictures. I have a question, my father has an old family photograph. The bottom says DRUM, Rail Road Photo Car ... it's printed on stiff card stock type paper. Can you tell me how I can know which rail road car this picture came from? It's of two men ... unfortunately, we don't know who ... we believe it's our Hutcheson family who went through Iowa and into Kansas.
—Leah Olson, Aiken, South Carolina
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A whole bunch of CPRR original documents are up on the web from Stanford University.
—Kyle
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I am a little confused by all the explanations. ... the photo of the completion of the Intercontinental [sic] Railroad that, according to your website's caption, depicts at least one Chinese worker. ... can you tell me which individual is definitely Chinese? Is this a version of the photo with an enlargement of the relevant section? Is your identification made on the basis of clothing, facial features, or what? Given the quality of the photo, it is difficult for me to make this identification, based on viewing the image on my computer screen.
My purpose is to make the students in my US History survey course aware of the problems that Chinese immigrants faced in the Western United States in the late 19th century, even at the level of public representation. ...
Norton Wheeler, Ph.D.
Social Science Deparatment
Missouri Southern State University
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" ... Despite their hard work, the Chinese still faced discrimination. They experienced more difficult conditions than the white workers while receiving less pay for their work. In 1867, the Chinese workers organized a strike demanding higher pay and safer working conditions. The officials ignored their demands and forced them the workers to return to work."
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I've read that Judah was a participant in writing the 1862 Pacific Railroad Bill – Is it known if he originated the idea of having competing roads build the Pacific Railroad from its eastern and western termini?
—Warren Awtrey
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Is there any place that will give us the locations of the Chinese labor camps for the railroad going through kansas. ...
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I am interested in the photographs of Oliver Denny. The Canadian born photographer is known to have worked in Grass Valley, Sacramento, Nevada City, Suisun and Marysville between 1865 and 1871 before moving to Portland, Oregon. While he was at Marysville, he issued a series of stereographs entitled “California Pacific Railroad.”
There was in fact a California Pacific Rail Road operating between Sacramento and Vallejo with a branch from Davis to Marysville at this time. Several of Denny’s views that I have seen (online) only make sense if Denny was photographing the California Pacific.
However, there have been some references to Central Pacific Rail Road views published in the “California Pacific Railroad” series “some of which may have been from negatives by Alfred A. Hart” (Palmquist, Pioneer Photographers of the Far West, pg. 200). I have one of these views, a variant of Hart 61 Hydraulic Mining, in my collection.
There is also an interesting CDV take by Denny of “Virginia Street, Reno” in the Union Pacific Museum. Item X364 from the Southern Pacific Collection. It is quite similar of Hart 286 of the same name and appears to have been taken about (but not exactly) the same time. See Myrick, Railroads of Nevada, pg. 15.
I would like to obtain more examples (copies?) of Oliver Denny’s images so that more light may be shed on the subject. Any information would be helpful.
—Barry Swackhamer
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We are trying to understand some of the nomemclature used on the SVRR Extension Folsom to Maryville Map, 1857. The railroad bed bends are noted by an angle measurement with a degree at the apex and numbers at the ends of the radii such as 429+60 and 432+10. Obviously these notes refer to the degree bend in road bed, radius and length. However, we are not educated in how to read the surveying notations. We would like to plot the line against present day street maps. ...
Kevin Knauss
Sprinkler Service & Supply, Inc.
Carmichael, CA
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How many snowsheds were built through the Sierra Nevada Mountains at the time the railroad was built?
How many bridges/trestles were built through the Sierra Nevada Mountains at the time the railroad was built?
Margit E. McGuire, PhD
College of Education
Seattle University
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—Anna Jure
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From: "Thomas Rubarth" trubarth@cox.net
Did the Central Pacific Railroad have a logo or shield associated with it? If so, where can I find an image of it?—Thomas
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I have a matched pair of Central Pacific Hoole Emigrant Tags that I am looking to trade for some Central Pacific iron. I am interested in link and pin coupler set, journal box covers, and tools. If you have extra iron and would like to acquire these extremely rare tags please contact me for information and pictures. I also have a pair of Wilcox tags available.
—Jason
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Do you know what ever happened to the old steam locomotive that was used as a hoisting engine for the mid-way vertical shaft on CPRR's Summit tunnel (tunnel no. 6)?? It was originally known as the "Sacramento" and belonged to the Sacramento Valley Railroad before CPRR bought it.
—Ken Miller
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I am seeking the San Francisco and San Jose Railroad corporate records, specifically the minutes. Does anyone know where they are?
—Scott Soper
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Evidence that the Central Pacific did at least try power drills in Summit Tunnel. I wonder what patents the drills were built under.
—Kyle
April 1, 1867 – San Francisco Alta Californian – from GM Best notes
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I am in the process of writing a screenplay that involves getting a character from Chicago to Washington State in 1870 by rail. If that was impractical then I would shift his destination to Oregon or California. He would still have to reach Washington by some other means. He would want to ship his horse and pack mule with him as well. If this was possible in whole or in part what would have been the travel time? ...
—Bill McIntyre
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Please let me introduce myself and to explain our Research Library's goals. I am Chaun Owens-Mortier, Research Historian for the Truckee Donner Historical Society. This summer we opened our Research Library for the first time. Myself, our Research Librarian; Katie Holley along with our Photo Archivist, Dennis Beegley are creating a complete archival database of our in-house resources.
... we have located a bit of information that contradicts the Town of Truckee information and that was the actual date for the naming of the town from Coburn's Station to Truckee. ... The Town refers us [to] the History of Truckee and we are dedicated to providing accurate information. The accepted date for the naming of Truckee is 1868. In referring to your article Iron Horse Along The Truckee we can see that it was actually named in late July 1867. That article references the following:
19) E.B. Crocker to Huntington, 1 August 1867; confirmed in Sacramento Bee (3 August 1867) and Gold Hill Daily News (6 August 1867). Subsequent use of the name Coburn's in the newspapers and by railroad officials, and the fact that the name change was announced again the following spring in the Sacramento Union (11 April 1868) and the Virginia City Territorial Enterprise (14 April 1868) indicate that the new name was not immediately adopted.
I am contacting the Virginia City Historical society in an attempt to gain a copy of the article from their area but I am requesting assistance from your organization to obtain copies of the other sources noted. Do you have copies of the correspondence between E.B. Crocker to Huntington and copies of the news articles from the Sacramento Bee, Gold Hill Daily News and the Sacramento Union? If you do can we obtain photocopies of those for our records? If not, can you direct me as to where I can obtain those copies.
I have located advertisements in the Truckee Republican from September/October of 1868 where business are still saying they are in Coburn's Station so the statement that the new name was not readily accepted is a very true fact but we would be grateful to have the correct information in file as to when the name was actually changed.
—Chaun Owens-Mortier, Research Historian, Truckee Donner Historical Society
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In my California History class, our instructor asked us to explain the importance of the Donner party in California history. Aside from it being a morbid and cautionary tale, I am guessing that the CPRR used the same route through the Sierras for the completion of their leg of the transcontinental Railroad. Can anyone comment on this?
—JB
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"Clearance project: 'designed to move customer products over a shorter, faster, and more efficient route,' Union Pacific’s Donner Pass route is open to doublestack intermodal traffic."
See: RailwayAge.com
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In August of 1928 my grandmother landed at Ellis Island NY, and traveled to San Francisco by rail, could you tell me the route and how long it would have taken. And if you could maybe you would know what the fare for that journey would have been? I am doing a report for school on how my ancestors came to CA. ...
—Terace Luchini
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I am planning on scratch building a working scale (N scale) model of a wooden RR Turntable and I am looking for a plan or set of plans to help me design the model. I take it that [someone] has such a plan since [they] just finished rebuilding exactly what I am looking for. It is a beautiful piece of work indeed. Is there any way I might be able to obtain a copy of the ... plans? ...
—Sierk Oudemans
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I was looking through Youtube the other day, and I was looking for a certain silent film. I thought I had seen most of [Thomas Alva] Edison's silent films of RR's recorded in the 1890's, but I came across the following one of the SP's "Overland Mail" (which I guess could be any train), capturing a double-headed train around a corner. The film details the number of each locomotive (although I didn't realize that until after), so I looked closely at the tenders and was able to write down the numbers. I remember being told that switching locomotive tenders around was a famous practice of the CP/SP, but I decided to look them up on the roster anyway:
No. 1360: 4-4-0, originally: ?
No. 1779: 4-6-0. originally: ?
Unfortuneately, when I tried to look them up on the rosters, I couldn't find either of them. I saw locomotives numbered 1362-1368, and locomotives numbered 1770-1776, but no engines with these numbers. Does anyone happen to know if they engines were even SP/CP, or were they from another RR, or did I miss something entirely?
The other question I had was about an SP locomotive I saw in a book once, numbered 1008.
However, it is very different from the one listed. The engine is a 4-4-0T, with no tender, a crane attached to the smokebox/pilot, and a small collection of tanks and cylinders under the cab. I own a copy of the book, so I can scan it if you'd like. The engine is simply described as a works pilot, but I have never seen any of pictures of it before. Does the museum have any other resources about it?
—Mike
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Where was the Tamarack station between Cisco and Summit stations? Was it before (west) of the current day Troy? Are there any survey and or maps (detailed) of that area with the railroad I have the survey prior to it with proposed railroad? Also where was Spruce? Is that Troy? ...
—Kristine
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I just wanted to let you know that ... you have a link ... which seems to now be missing. ...
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I've just come across your very nice website – interested in the old rails in particular.
A month ago I set up a group on the flickr photographers' website for iron and steel rail makers marks. ...
There are quite a few old rail pictures in the flickr group, back to the late nineteenth century, but not as old as the historic iron rails you have in your collections. I had not realised until people started posting pictures to the flickr group that very old rails were still in place on track bed in Canada, USA and Australia. In Australia they seem to have been quite often reused as fenceposts.
In Britain I think almost all old rails were taken up c. 1963, when the rail network was reduced in size with the closure of a lot of supposedly less profitable railway lines. So in the flickr group for example we have a Dorman Long rail of 1922 which is in a museum piece in NE England, whereas there are much older British rolled rails still in their original locations overseas. In the flickr group we have an older British rail in Sweden for example, so the exports were not all transatlantic.
—Tom Swailes from Bollington, Cheshire, England
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Did the Central Pacific Jupiter 4-4-0 Locomotive have Hi-Rail Wheels or Scale Wheels?
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See the Poster section of the CPRR Museum Exhibits, and the Train Poster section of the CPRR Museum bookshop.
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I wanted to let you know about a new project that the Spatial History Lab at Stanford is working on. They (we) are mapping the locations of Alfred Hart's photos along the CPRR and pairing each with a repeat photograph from the same spot. It's been fascinating thus far to see the changes in the landscape over the ensuing 150 years.
The project is still in progress (winter snows in the mountains will stall further photos during the winter) but we're excited about the contrasts we've seen already.
I wanted to let you all know about the project not only because it seems in line with your interests, but because we would love your input. I'm sure there are details we're missing and whole stories that we've forgotten. If you know anything more about the photos, please do let us know.
The link to the site is: Spatial History Project – A.A. Hart Visualizations.
You can navigate through the photos (we only have the first nine up now, with more to come in the very near future) both spatially and linearly.
Enjoy!
Killeen Hanson
Project Manager, Shaping the West
Spatial History Project
Stanford University
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Do you have any information on Camp 21 in Sardine Valley north of Stampede Reservoir? Based on the many old beer cans in the area I would guess the camp was operating 1936-37 making it part of the Hobart Mills operation rather than a Boca - Loyalton Railroad operation. The remaining wood foundations look like they may be old railroad cars, not cabins, but the track and wheels are all gone. I can't find any detailed history of the operation of the Railroad or of the camps. The museum list a stereograph of Camp 21, but it is not available on line.
—Dean Eppley, Truckee
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I have a couple of signed prints done by Steve Carter of the "Last Spike #44" and "The Hogger's last lock #458" ... was wondering if those would have any historic value?
—Normand Leduc
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I am from Russia. I found the place where the rail, shown in attachment situated. This is very interesting place. We have here old railroad with different marks on the rails. Rail which is in attachment only one of them. For example we have a rail which marked " UNION D N.T.K. 1887" ...
—Sergey
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I have seen some CPRR baggage tags that are marked "local" and some "Emigrant" and "Local." What constituted a local train on the CPRR? Where there specific local trains that ran on a daily basis between designated stations? Does anyone happen to know when the "Emigrant" tags were no longer used? Thanks.
—Jason
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Were can I find information on the history of train conductor hats?
—Rich Russell
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I was thrilled to find your publication The Pacific [Tourist] by Henry T. [Williams].
I am writing a story set in 1877 that places my characters on a train from Los Angeles to the state line between Utah and Wyoming. I'd like for everything to be as accurate as possible ... do you know of any guide written in the era for the trip from Los Angeles to San [Francisco]?
Thank you so much for all your work in preserving RR history. I am old enough to remember traveling from Wichita to Philadelphia on an "old-fashioned" train with dining car and sleepers. It was a trip never to be forgotten.
—Brenda Reed
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Looking for information on someone who I think either worked for the CPRR or the SP.
A google search has turned up nothing, maybe someone in your group can help me?
John Leroy Minchin. I'm trying to find out about this person. I'm a railroad collector and have a railroad "presentation" lantern that was given to JOHN LEROY MINCHIN with a date of 1886 on it. Can you help me? Thanks.
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Five-node spherical virtual-reality scene which explores the Summit Tunnel in detail, including its vertical construction shaft (view full-screen for best effect).
Howard Goldbaum
All Around Nevada
Donald W. Reynolds School of Journalism MS 310
University of Nevada
Reno, NV
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Is the transcription that you have online the full and complete report which Jeremiah M. Wilson delivered to Congress on February 21, 1873? If not, do you know where I could view the full report?
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We are doing a report on the Transcontinental RR. We are finding a lot of information about the Chinese immigrants that worked on the RR; however, we can find very little information about the Irish immigrants that worked for the Union Pacific RR. Can you give us some direction?
—Kim Pearson
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I am looking for a set of fine drinking glasses they used in the dining cars in the 1930's and 1940's. And also in the Presidents dining car.
—Darlene Kelly
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"A new exhibit at the Crocker Art Museum pays tribute to the Museum’s founders and shares the stories of philanthropy, eccentricity and high style that made the Crockers the epitome of the Gilded Age. Breathtaking jewelry, dramatic gowns, china, furniture, personal letters, paintings and photographs tell the lesser-known side of the Crocker family’s story in Treasures, Curiosities and Secrets: The Crockers and the Gilded Age, opening November 6. ... More than 75 objects will be on display to tell the story of California’s premier early art patrons, Edwin Bryant and Margaret Crocker, and the era in which they lived. The exhibit also encompasses the lives and mementos of their children, including the notorious Aimée Crocker, who became an international social success, receiving widespread press for her dramatic costumes, travels to the Far East, extensive tattoos and five controversial marriages, twice to Russian nobility. Edwin Bryant and Margaret Crocker settled in Sacramento in 1852 and worked as merchants until Edwin was appointed to the California Supreme Court in 1863. Seven months later, Edwin left the bench to serve as legal counsel for the Central Pacific Railroad Company, which ultimately made him a millionaire. ... A paralytic stoke in June 1869 forced Edwin to retire but allowed him and his family to pursue other interests, including commissioning an art gallery ... Overseas for the next three years, the Crockers purchased more than 700 paintings and 1,300 drawings that became the core of their museum ... " [More]
[Courtesy Google Alerts.]
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I recently purchased a Sacramento Northern Railway Special Agent badge #1 ... on eBay. I personally had never met the seller but communicated with him via email previously. After I purchased the item I was provided information the badge was a fake and the manufacturer was located. The manufacturer confirmed they made the badge(s) approximately one month previous and it was sold to [eBay seller]. The seller ... did refund my money. The manufacturing company was not aware of how the buyer was going to use it. The manufacturer did tell me they notified eBay. ...
When I showed a photo of the ... Spokane Portland Seattle Railway Special Agent badge ... it was also identified as a fake purchased by the same.
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Note: The hostilities with the plains Indians was with the Union Pacific Railroad. (The Indians and the Central Pacific Railroad got along together very well.)
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Earlier this year I submitted a brief question and was pleasantly surprised at the many thoughtful and insightful answers.
My question this time is: Would anyone have any knowledge as to the placement of the border(s) between Utah and Wyoming. I suspect it has much to do with roads, coal and the rails but am having trouble finding information on this. I also think Durant might have had some input.
—Bart Crattie
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Looking to find the value of the attached lithograph, who would I contact?
—Barbara Perham
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Who won the race between the Union Pacific and Central Pacific railroads?
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I am working on an essay about EB Crocker and am wondering whether anyone has knows firm dates for Charles Crocker's resignation from the CPRR Board and EB Crocker's addition to the Board. Any information or suggestions for research sources will be much appreciated.
—Glenn Willumson
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My family has found what appears to be a toilet off of the central pacific railroad. It's rounded and on the front it says please do not clean the toilet bowl outside of the window, Central Pacific RR. Those are not the exact words, but it's close. I was wondering if something like this has been found before, and if it's really a part of the train.
—Casey Graham
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Do you have any records of the people who worked on the transcontinental railroad? I'm doing a report for D.A.R. in 1st person and it would really help a lot. ...
—Kathleen A. Clark, Los Cuates Middle School, Los Fresnos, Texas
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My name is Mike Harvey, I am an Ex Humbug and current Noble Grand Recorder for Doctor Samuel Gregg George Chapter 1855 of E Clampus Vitus. On October 10th, 2009 around 9:00 am we are dedicating a monument to the Tulare Roundhouse. The event will take place at Halfys bar. This is not the exact location of the roundhouse but close enough. If anyone is interested in attending it is open to the public. If anyone has a picture of the roundhouse I would appreciate it if they could email it to me at dsgg1855@dslextreme.com I need a good picture for a handout at the event. Information will be posted in about a week at dsgg1855.com keep checking for details.
Mike Harvey
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DSGG1855 ECV
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Do you have employment records from 1915-1920?
—Teresa A. Ramirez
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The B.B.C. did a Movie/Documentary sometime in 2002-2003. Parts were filmed in California. It was on the Central and Union Pacific Rail roads joining. I am trying to find it. Can you help me?
—R. Beck
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Did the railroads ever keep accident reports on individuals they accidently ran over back in the early 1900's specifically the year of 1902? My great-grandfather was run over by a freight train in Yuma back then. I was wondering if these accidents were ever documented.
–Karen Mazzeo
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I remember looking at a then new photo exhibit on this website back in late 2005 of a museum or private collection of women's Victorian dresses and apparel, etc. during the Transcontinental RR era. (and or 1850-1920 etc.)
However, I can not find that page nor did I bookmark it. Do you remember that or what site (linked from the cprr.org) I may have looking at?
—Lance
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... I have recently come into posession of what seems to be a novelty railroad spike for the film Union Pacific. I have searched high and low on the internet and cannot seem to find anything about it other than on your website, The one I have is slightly different to the one you feature by way of the fact it is inscribed with
The David Rose Paramount Convention 1939The other engravings match the ones your pictures show. I fully expect it not to be a collectible item at all but i woulld be curious to find out how it arrived hear in England. iIf you could give me any guidance or point me in the direction of someone that could i would be most greatful,
—Jack Chipperfield
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Re: Health Insurance Reform / Medical Savings Plan
Dear President Elect Clinton:
Health Care costs are out of control for one reason only: Health Insurance was erroneously formulated from its inception, containing a fatal flaw:
Flaw: “Health Insurance” makes medical cost appear to be free to patients, physicians, and hospitals because it is not insurance. Workable insurance must provide a pre-specified payoff that is triggered by events not under the control of the insured, not the ability to spend without limit at no personal cost.
Patients need to be cost conscious. My 8 year old daughter, Becky, is ready to buy toys without limit if her parents are buying, but is unbelievably frugal and prudent with her own savings—yet this elementary lesson was lost on the health insurance industry and the error was perpetuated in the design of Medicare and Medicaid.
During a decade and a half of directing Computed Tomography facilities at a University Medical Center, not a single one of the hundreds of physicians I trained contradicted my claim that if each patient were to be offered a free color television in place of the insurance paid CT scan they were about to undergo (economically equivalent), we would do far fewer CT scans—a true measure of the huge resource misallocation caused by flawed health insurance. Value is always subjective, so only a patient spending his or her own money can decide whether a health care expenditure is “necessary”. Current reform proposals such as “managed competition” won’t work because they perpetuate the “health insurance” flaw that causes cost to rise uncontrollably, and because they eliminate the crucial information and direction that detailed price fluctuation conveys to producers and providers. The disastrous ineffectiveness of central planning, overall funding caps, and price controls is the key lesson that should be taken from the eastern bloc having lost the “cold war.”
To minimize these perverse effects of health insurance, while creating a huge pool of capital for investment in the economy, I suggest the following evolutionary approach to limiting health insurance to catastrophic major medical coverage, utilizing the best features of self-insurance, IRA’s, cash value life insurance, variable annuities, credit/debit cards, electronic funds transfer, and asset management accounts:
Solution: Every American should have a tax-deferred freely investable MEDICAL SAVINGS ACCOUNT into which is directly deposited the monthly equivalent of at least the amount of health insurance premiums, or more if an individual chooses. The fundamental idea is that the amount of the deductible of a linked health insurance policy varies and is equal to the current medical savings account balance, with changing monthly insurance premiums automatically paid from the account. This self-insurance approach with linked major medical backup maximizes cost consciousness while providing 100% coverage.
Medical costs are paid electronically by using a medical savings account debit card. Account overdrafts for medical costs are automatically paid by the linked private health insurance policy but since most payments are not account overdrafts, most insurance administrative costs are avoided. Buildup in the value of the medical savings account thus results in an accelerating decline in health insurance premiums. As account balances become larger, self-insurance increases, cost consciousness increases, health insurance premiums dramatically decrease, investment earnings cover the costs of medical care, and monthly contributions can decrease [as Einstein commented, compound interest is mankind’s greatest invention].
Account balances must be perceived as being personal money. Amounts accumulated in excess of the expected total cost of future health care during the individual’s remaining lifetime may be withdrawn, and any balance remaining at death goes to the designated beneficiary. Family members would be free to combine or transfer funds between accounts, and dependents could be freely added to accounts. Insurance policies should have no exclusions for prior conditions, and be universally available with community ratings except for temporary premium increases only to offset individual insurance reimbursements exceeding DRG norms while providing actuarial discounts for preventive care and safety measures such as air bags and smoke detectors, and surcharges for voluntary risk taking such as smoking, motorcycling, and skydiving. Various arrangements by insurance companies, fee for service health care providers, HMO’s, care quality auditing firms, information services, mutual funds, and banks, etc. in various combinations would be innovated to serve this new market.
Result: Millions of Americans spending their own money for health care will impose market discipline, currently absent, and will receive better care with dramatically reduced health care expenditures due to elimination of care judged by patients to be unnecessary, avoidance of cost shifting, and elimination of most current administrative costs. Health insurance also becomes portable, eliminating “job lock”, and account balances help fund medical care when not working while account overdrafts due to unpaid premiums by the unemployed could become tax loans as in the Clinton student loan proposal. A huge investment pool accumulates for investment in the economy and funding of retirement, and a savings model is established that can be developed to provide a funding mechanism for other social insurance needs.
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I have a complete set of the 50 postcards by Lightfoot. They belonged to my father and I would like to know how to establish a date for them. I believe my father purchased them in the 1940's. Each card has a number and description in the upper left corner, a place for a stamp in the right corner, The words "Post Card" on the right side and the words "Published by LIGHTFOOT COLLECTION, Huntington Sta., N.Y." Also each card has a unique number in the lower left corner. The 50th card has the number "49655-C" as an example.
The postcards are a little yellow with age but don't have any folds or imperfections.
I would really appreciate anything you can tell me about them as I am about to pass them on to my 16 year old grandson because of his interest in railroads.
—Mike Lapham, Vancouver, WA
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I am looking for historical documention of passenger train service between West Virginia and northeastern Oregon, 1890-1910. I have learned that B & O ran from West Virginia - but that passengers would have to transfer at least once to another line before reaching their destination. What other lines were active at the time in question? Would Chicago, or what other city be the most likely transfer point?
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I am related to the wife of James Harvey Strobridge. She was my great-grandmother's sister. She was born in Cahir, County Tipperary, Ireland. I am trying to find out her full maiden name ... I believe she was a Gavin. Would you happen to know her first name?
—Barbara Howder
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My group is doing a project on the Promontory Point 1869 image. The main question is: Is this image a good representation of 1869. Why or why not? What is its significance?
—Nicole Enriquez
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I have a "caboose" iron stove. MK&T Railroad item. I would like to display this in my home. The "base" is missing. I do not know if it should be a "platform" or 4 legs that it sits on. Unable to find a picture. Can you help me?
—Margaret Reckert in Missouri ... home for the "Katy."
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... noticed that on your home page
you are linking to stereoviews.info.
I've also been using this other page about Stereo Views ... it's a good additional resource:
Stereo Views and Other Photography Resources Online
... it has tons of links to Stereo View collections, plus other photography collections like Lantern Slides, early photography, camera time lines and more. I even added it to my lesson plans; the kids loved it. Let me know if you decide to incorporate it!
—Sarah
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I would like to make contact ... regarding the current historical designation status of Bloomers Cut ... and share with you that a development proposal on the west side of Bloomers Cut currently being processed by the City of Auburn requires that a bridge be built over the top of Bloomers Cut and has the potential of doing damage to this wonderful piece of history.
—Mike Emmert
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I have a reference to a trip made from England to New York City on the S.S. Etruria, Cunard Line and then from New York City to Mexico City by train.
Was this possible in 1898 and how was it accomplished? Do you know of any travel books or map routes which could verify such a trip?
—Bradley Hodge, Huntsville, Texas
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I'm doing research on a play and wanted to know how and why Pullman cars were named and by whom.
Many thanks for your service,
—Bill Weatherford
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" ... Old Crocker Inn: In the late 1800s, Charles Crocker, one of the founders of the Central Pacific Railroad, purchased nearly 600 acres above the Russian River and built a ranch and summer home there for entertaining his powerful friends and business partners. The ranch has been subdivided and parts have been sold over the years – much of it is now a residential development and a KOA campground – but five of those acres still bear Crocker's name, in the form of the Old Crocker Inn. ... " [More]
[Courtesy Google Alerts.]
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" ... Under all of that paint was solid mahogany wood. It was beautiful and as smooth as a baby's bottom! And the discovery scared me; according to the records we had, the car was built in the late 1880's ... " [More]
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" ... at Railtown 1897 State Historic Park, the far-flung Tuolumne County outpost of Sacramento's California State Railroad Museum. ... In better times, Sierra Railway No. 3 was a star. Her first onscreen appearance was in a 1919 silent-movie serial called The Red Glove. Her first feature-film role was alongside Gary Cooper in The Virginian (1929), the first 'talkie' shot on location. In the 1950s and '60s, the locomotive appeared in a slew of Westerns, from the classic High Noon (again starring Cooper) to TV's Bonanza and Death Valley Days. Also among her 72 movie and TV credits are Gunsmoke, Petticoat Junction, Bound for Glory and Back to the Future III. ... She needs major work ..." [More]
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" ... In January 1890, a relentless barrage of blizzards and a derailed train shut down the railroad for 15 days. Central Pacific used every weapon in its arsenal to clear the line: a rotary snowplow, an armada of wedge plows, hundreds of railroad personnel, and nearly 5,000 civilian snow shovelers who were hired to augment CP crews. Despite their best efforts, the winter’s 66 feet of snow (fourth snowiest on record), overwhelmed their efforts and passenger trains were snowbound throughout the high country. ... " [More]
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Request for information/assistance on Wooden Artifact from Union Pacific Railroad Line, located near Las Vegas Nevada. I saw some information on one of the related links to your Iron Site information. I read some information in reference to "Fence Line Wooden Line Posts (RR Boundary, or Survey markers)".
I have a wooden post which is square approximately 1 1/2 inches on all sides, approximately 14 to 18 inches long, with the word "UNION" all in caps on one side, the letters have been scoured deep into the wood, the other half "PACIFIC" is missing assuming that Pacific was there?? There are small holes in the top and bottom which secures a wire. I was intrigued by the notion or possibility that these may be original Redwood items from the turn of the century i.e. survey markers, or some sort of boundry marker. I did find it along a old UP Railroad siding. Have you or anybody else ever seen something like this?? I can try to get you a few pictures, it is quite interesting.
I am also quite interested in early railroad history, I have walked miles of UP right of way in southern Nevada, found some of the old construction camps and the like.
Also as a matter of interest to you and other members of the CPRR.ORG group, on the subject of the Stone Ovens previously thought to be a RR Worker's Hut. I got a copy of Patricia Weggers document about this subject. I have found 3 to 4 locations in Nevada, near Las Vegas, all pretty much, intact. I can try to get you a photo of the best one I found, for you or any interested readers. Hope to talk with you soon, tell me what you think about the "Union" embossed wooden stake??
—William R. Gates, Nampa, Idaho
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Attached is the patent for the wire gates used on the CP/SP commute cars in the East Bay. Thought it might interest you. It was initially used on the wooden open platform steam-pulled cars, and later adapted to the electrics.
—Kyle
Car, Commuter, Safety Gate - Brown 1889 403,176 - Sacramento
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Attached is an article from the Sacramento Bee in May 1869. It may be from the 10th, or perhaps a day or two after. (I received the photocopy from a source who copied Bee articles from May 5, 8, 10, 11, and 12 - but unfortunately didn't mark this particular one.) This is the first contemporary article I know of that claims that dodge received the 2nd (SF Newsletter) golden spike, and not Durant as I had supposed (but also had no evidence of).
I'm also looking for more complete copy of the May 10 Bee article about the festivities in Sacramento and the speech of Charles Crocker. Attached is what I have. I attach a May 8 article describing the celebration and parade, including loco Gov Stanford in front of the depot. Finally, a May 5 article describing the plans for the parade (unfortunately with the middle section missing).
—Kyle Wyatt
Sac Bee May 10, 1869 perhaps - Promontory Ceremonies concluded, Dodge gets golden spike
Sac Bee May 10, 1869 - Sacramento Celebration May 8
Sac Bee May 8, 1869 - Sacramento Pacific RR Celebration - loco Gov Stanford
Sac Bee May 5, 1869 - Sacramento Celebration Program - partial
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I am a Boy Scout in Troop 156, Howell NJ. I am working on my Eagle Scout Project which is the restoration of a Railway Express Baggage Cart. The cart that I am restoring belongs to the New Jersey Museum of Transportation, Pine Creek Railroad. All that is left of the cart presently are rusted rusted wheel assemblies and side straps – no wood exists at all. Can you help me in locating blueprints for REA Baggage carts and possibly proper paint information? ...
—Michael Suchernick, Life Scout, Troop 156, Howell, NJ
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Granddad had a piece of rail that was marked "JOLIET 1886 V". What is its history?
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I'm working on a paper regarding the train robbery of 1870 outside of Verdi, Nevada. I was wondering if you might have or could direct me to information regarding the town of Verdi in 1870. Specifically, I'm looking for information regarding vital statistics i.e. population figures, life expectancy, etc.
Also if you are familiar with the politics of the town and the gossip within the city. What I'm also trying to write about is what life was really like for the inhabitants. ...
—Greg Smith
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I have some original "Ilford Special Lantern Plates" in b&w and bromide, I think they are made around 1900. The sizes are 8,5 x 17 cm and 4,3 x 10,6 cm, most of the pictures on the glasses are stereoscope. I would like to know more about them, but find it hard to get some information. What kind of viewer do I need to see them in 3 D? What wold be an adequate price if I would sell them somewhere, for example to a museum or a collector?
—Ulrich Rathgeber
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... I have been very busy working on a web site at www.sp1353.com for Nathan about our caboose. I've finished the web site and would love for you to see it! ...
—Chantel Paul
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My godmother and great-great aunt, Lora Hawkins, was, according to family lore, the first woman to ever work for Southern Pacific Railroad. Jilted by her fiance, she never married and chose a career. She was reportedly an assistant ticket clerk and stenographer at the Lake Charles, Louisiana, depot, and I have the name plate that was on her desk.
Can you please help me uncover any information about her employment at SP? Was she really such a ground breaker? I knew her when she was much older, in her 80s and 90s, and she was still feisty! ...
—Mrs. Deborah Cariker, Montgomery, Texas
Aunt Lora Hawkins at SPRR office
Older Aunt Lora Hawkins at office
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How did the people get the workers for the transcontinental railroad? Did people just come and get paid? Or was it more complicated? ...
—Lena Banchero
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"Summary: Contains photographs, stereoviews, engravings, maps, and documents illustrating the history of the transcontinental railroad. Discusses the 1860s construction of the railroads, the financial backers, and workers involved in this project that reduced coast-to-coast travel from over one hundred days to six. Also contains information on the joining of the rails between the Central Pacific and the Union Pacific Railroad in May 10, 1869. The virtual museum was established by the family of railroad pioneer Lewis Metzler Clement and launched in February 1999."
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"Abstract: Contains original and blueprint engineering drawings of cable car lines, electric railways, railroads, and other related drawings. Cable car drawings include drawings of the complete workings for 7 cable car lines for Market Street Cable Railway Co. Railroad drawings include drawings of bridges and profiles of sections of the Atlantic & Pacific Railroad. The collection also includes Lewis Metzler Clement's reference materials and some of R.M. Clement's personal papers."
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I'm guessing the guide to this collection was posted on our California Historical Society website in connection with a previous exhibit. At this point, all of our finding aids are accessible only through the Online Archive of California and although the Curry diary is not among those listed, below is the text from the catalog record description for this item.
I hope this helps with your research.
—California Historical Society
California Historical Society
CHS MS 764
Author: Curry, Stephen Allen, 1834-1865.
Title: Stephen Allen Curry diary : photocopy of handwritten transcription, 1864 Nov.-1865 June 16.
Description: 1 folder (0.1 linear ft.)
Note: Consists of 38 pages from Curry's diary, prepared by his great-nephew Dr. James Hart Curry Martens. The diary details his ocean voyage from New York to San Francisco via Panama on the Ocean Queen. Also outlines his experience working on the Central Pacific Railroad in northern Calif., in the foothills of the Sierra. Places mentioned include Placerville, Robber's Ravine (now called Darrington), Dutch Flat, and Canyon Creek. Curry left Calif. on the ship Moses Taylor, June 15, 1865. Includes copies of pages from the genealogical study entitled The Currey [sic] Family in the Hudson Highlands: Descendants of Richard Currey of Peekskill Hollow, New York, by Philip Field Horne, 1970.
Note: Curry was the eighth of thirteen children of the Rev. Benjamin Ward Currey and Susan Hart Currey[sic]. He died three months after he left California.
Note: Descriptive guide available in library.
Language: English
Subject:
Currey family.
Ocean Queen (Steamship).
Central Pacific Railroad Company.
Voyages to the Pacific coast.
Railroad workers -- California.
Diaries.
El Dorado County (Calif.) -- Description and travel.
Placer County (Caif.) -- Description and travel.
Added Entry: Martens, James Hart Curry, 1901-
Format: Archive/Manuscript
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I am in possession of a Union Pacific coal heating and cooking stove found in the early model cabooses.
I have been trying for many years to find out information on this stove.
On the top of the stove is imposed into the casting it says "If I am good please tell others about it."
The latest patent date found is 1912.
I came into possession of it when I was a kid on vacation at Feather River Canyon station. My cousin at that time was in charge of it. There was two old shacks and both of them had old stoves in them. My cousin said we could have one of the stoves. I picked this one That was some were around 37 years ago.
—Darrell Woodring
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My belief is that if you cannot ride it, shoot it, or drive it; then there is no point in owning it. I am looking for a pre 1900 steam locamotive-tender restoration project. My goal is restoration to fully functional, interesting, and easy on the eye. Once my goals are met it will ultimately be donated to a museum with a proactive maintenance program for the ages.
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What source(s) would you recommend dealing with the actual surveys (crews, methods, lore, etc) for the CPRR? There is alot of general information but I haven't found anything in detail.
—Bart Crattie, Land Surveyor
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I am looking for historical information on some research for a paper I am doing on the early immigrants to Oregon via the route of the Short Line, eastern Oregon, 1900 1915, to verify if the railroad went through or had stops at:
Brogan, Oregon - Cake, Oregon - Malheur City
Huntington, & Baker City, Oregon.
I do know at this time that Cake, Oregon was the sight of the Rainbow Gold mines, there verified a post office, by the same name was established. I am told Cake did have railway service, the Short Line being a connector from back east. No longer any remaining evidence of a town, it is hard to find any information regarding this area.
Huntington, once was the "turn around" a bustling town for people coming from east to west. Did the service from Cake then go to Huntington ?
Specifically however, it is Cake that I am focused, and would like some evidence of rail service. I would certainly love to be able to copy a route map, showing cities served in this area, thus possibly answering all of my questions about the rails the stories behind the men and women who came west, and why? ...
—Tonna Haw
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Samuel Montague's engineering report of 8 October 1864, under ALIGNMENT, states "Although by Act of Congress . . . you are allowed to use the maximum curves on the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, the adopted maximum is ten degrees, or a radius of five hunddred and seventy-three feet." (The Act of Congress referred to is that of July 2, 1862, I believe the curve issue is in section 13.)
The implication in Montague's statement is that the B&O's curves were sharper ("maximum" in Montague's statement referring to the highest degree curve allowed) than the 10-degree curve standard adopted by the CPRR. In fact, there was one (or more likely, one reverse) mainline curve of 14 degrees in Palisade Canyon, opposite the mouth of Pine Creek, just west of Palisade station. The commissioners found no reason to complain about this curve (had they noticed it?). Was it within the Act's limit? Nowhere do I find a definition of the B&Os tightest curve as of 1862 (I do find an 18-degree curve on the B&O as of 1833).
That 14-degree curve was removed by July 1869 by relocating the Humboldt River, so it was probably always considered temporary.
—Wendell
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The 1869 US locomotive stamp (Scott #114) is sometimes said to commemorate the completion of the transcontinental railway?
Can anyone identify this locomotive?
—Richard West, University of Manchester
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Are you interested in any Southern Pacific Police items such as photos/scans of the Southern Pacific Magazine showing the change of the Police badge to the new Police Shield? I also have the original photo of the badges that I have scanned.
I have attached three photos. The photo of the "Total Badge Article" is of the switch from the Irvine and Jachens six point star to the universal shield used by the Southern Pacific Railroad Police. The two accompanying photos are those that were taken by the Southern Pacific Bulletin Staff and are those photos in the SP Bulletin. Until the universal badge was created there were many different badges used. California, Utah, Nevada and Oregon all had the six point star. The southern states had so many different types of badges no one apparently really knows how many they have. ...
Should you have any questions please e-mail me to clarify anything. ...
Ross Jackson Sr.
Retired Southern Pacific Police Officer/Special Agent
Last Shield
My first Railroad Police Department 6 point Star and Texas 7 point Star
Article and photographs courtesy of the author.
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I am currently studying for my fireman ticket on the 3716 locomotive in Summerland B.C. Canada. I came across your diagram of the 4-4-0 and thought it would be a great learning tool for me. I have been with the K.V,R railway for five years now and have my brakeman ticket. I would like to obtain a large poster of the diagram and list of part names. It is very impressive. Can you help me? —Mark Dicer
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I have been interested in railroads since a very young age. I have visited your website and read through several portions of it, mainly focusing on CPRR steam locomotives, many times. Through a stroke of luck, I may be able to contribute something to your collection.
My grandmother is part of a large library in Long Island, which constantly discards older books to make room for newer ones. This has resulted in me amassing a small personal library of discard railroad texts, many of which have been printed in the 1960's to the 1990's. Today, my grandmother brought me a large, coffee-table sized book titled Yonder Comes the Train, first published in 1965. It has a section on the Transcontinental Railroad, which includes several pictures of Central Pacific and Union Pacific. A few of these are photographs I have never seen before online, such as a 3-quarter shot of El Gobernador, and a shot of T.D. Judah with a cowcatcher/pilot and huge headlight on its small tender, with a crew and pointing to the right. There are also several photographs of CP engines with 10 and 12-wheel tenders (two sets of 6 wheels) (CP locos No. 149 and No. 166), which I thought only became common in the middle of 20th century. Several photographs of early UP locomotives are also present, such as No. 1 General Sherman, No. 25 McQueen, and 4 unidentified engines plus No. 261 pushing a rotary snowplow.
I would be happy to list the contents of some of the more interesting photos, and email them to you. Most of the photos are listed as courtesy of the Union Pacific or Southern Pacific, so I'd assume they are part of their archives ...
—Michael
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Have you ever seen this marvelous sculptural monument?
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I have a few questions:
When was the first passenger ride?How were third-class seats positioned?
How many stops were there?
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—Henry Hazlitt, in his wonderful book Economics In One Lesson, 1946.
Yes, this was all well understood and predicted in 1946! Another example of the importance of learning from history ...
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My father lived in Essex, MT from about 1917 to 1927. His father worked for the Great Northern Railroad. Dad talked about the large engines, the Malleys that would come into town to push the trains over the Continental Divide. Am I spelling it correctly? I cannot find anything on the Web. I would like to get a photo of a Malley if they exist.
—Lloyd Smith
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Is the CPRR Museum only virtual? Have you an address we can visit?
—John Lenkey in N.C.
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